Lambi Kahani ((Long Story))

Back to Indra Hari Vishnu and All the Siva vs Vishnu fights

So repeating myself
The reason the human relationships are emphasized by the ancient Texts is exactly that. There is no one superior or inferior. Everyone is a family.

I am going to tell you two stories. Lambi kahaniyan. Then I am going to comment on them. The first one is.

The Five and the Kicker

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HARI or Indra – Preamble

One thing we (Indians, sanatanis, people in general) love is whenever we have major change or major problem, we make up teams and send them to do the task. Almost eventually, the teams are of five people for some reason. And a kicker.

So in the lowest form of government, we have a Panchayata, Five men or women. And the Munim or Bakshi or lambardar or your local accountant.

Probably comes from the prayer 
PANCH DEV RAKSHA KARE
BRAHMA VISHNU MAHESH

Not only Brahma, Not only Vishnu, Not only Shiva. We need FIVE atleast!

In Chakshusha manvantara, we had five world conquering brothers and one nephew with them as the support.

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Panch Kanya – How the List? – Part 2

When, Indra left after Vritra war, they appointed Nahusha (son in law of Siva) and his five brothers plus nephew Nriga. These ruled as Indras. In next generation, we had eldest Yati leave for forest and a new religion, but his five brothers headed by Yayati made their name along with their nephew Ribhu.

Yayati had five sons who conquered the earth and with help especially of one nephew of these five, Harita.

Even Yadu had five sons and the kicker nephew Haihaya. Even Haihaya had five sons and a grandson who conquered territories. Parasurama spared the five sons of Kartavirya Arjuna and nephew Talajangha!!

Then there were the Five brothers born to a father called Pandu. Pandu had no great achievements, he had weak constitution, bad hunting skills, bad judge of timing, dying on his son’s birthday but he was good in his short rule but ran away from his duties. He never forgot those duties and he stood by while his wives had children by others. He raised them as his own. Well he died before he could raise them all, he did raise one, Yudhishthara. And as later Yaksha prashna told us, that One was enough.

These five were born Kuru royal princes but chose not the moniker Kauravas, they were called Bharatas and Purus and Kurushresthas and Dasarhas and Yadaviputras and Yadavas and Vrishnis and Bhojas, they chose the name to be identified with the weak man who called them sons, PANDAVAS. Weak in body or health but never in spirit. They were born to five fathers and two mothers but acted as five fingers of one hand. The fist of Dharma. The five and we can identify a nephew of theirs Ghatotkacha or Satyaki or Abhimanyu. Take your pick.

I always saw the FIVES in our culture as Five fingers of Dharma clenching as a fist. And the nephew from next generation is always the Laat (Kick), the one who kicks the Adharma away.

These five and one is not unique to us as a culture or unique to mythology. Somehow it returns again and again.

It was the five kings of North west who came to crown Chandragupta to Maurya throne (and nephew Laghupauarva!).

It was the Five sons of Samudragupta who fought the Kushanas away and extended the frontiers to Caspian sea. It was the five Gupta princes who backed the Skanda Gupta and nephew I kid you not, Ghatotkacha Gupta from what is now Gujarat.

It was the five sons and one nephew who founded the Vallabhi kingdom which fought the Persians for 120 years. Funny, the names of Chakshusha and Vallabhi guys are very similar, the father knew his Puranas when he named them.

It was the twilight of Hindu kingdoms in India, except for few bright spots nestled in desert of Rajputana, the Mithila lying behind the floods of Ganga and Kosi, the Orissa hidden by the forests of Kirata Siva’s people, all other Hindu kingdoms had fallen. The Khilji army scythed their way to deep south wounding and devastating Hindu psyche and rajadharma.

There was a revival, lead by wait for it FIVE PANDYA brothers in Deep South. They shone for a brief moment and also fell. The second revival was coming.

It was wait for it Kingdom calling itself DAKSHIN PANCHALA with capital at Kampilya that raised its head against the Sultanate Subahdars. Five brothers, royal princes had their kingdom (called “Kuntala”!! in sanskrit) destroyed and burnt and traveled incognito were given shelter by the Kampili king. They married into Kampili family. They were called “Yadavas” and took the name of their father Sangama.

They rose to heights and were overthrown and even enslaved in the city of Delhi. They escaped and traveled in forests and deccan pathar and slowly built their strength again.

They also found a Madhava to guide them!! Madhava Vidyaranya and his brother Sayana and the other brother Bhoganatha, the pontiff of Sringeri.

For thirteen years they struggled in the forests and in hiding and arose to found the Vijayanagar city.

A new dharmik polity was constructed at the DARKEST period in our history in the Peninsula, destroying the hundred smaller kingdoms which fought each other rather than the common enemy, a new vibrant dharma, a new vibrant Kshatriya caste, a new vibrant philosophy of Sayana, a new vibrant kingdom was set up in a new Dharmayuddha, new Kurukshetra. For 230 years that kingdom nay Empire was the bulwark of Hinduism.

It was founded by five brothers, Harihara, Kampa, Bukka, Marappa and Muddapa. They worked together. Harihara kept the center and his four brothers spread out in four directions and brought the waters of three oceans and Ganga to his Yagnas.

See the name HariHara, HARI AND HARA. Brahma is silent by the way. To revive the Hindu rajyadharma, Hari was not enough nor was Hara, we needed all three, Vidyaranya (Sararswati’s beloved) the silent one. The brothers were called Pancha Pandavas even in those times, amiable, loving and warlike.

The kicker was Kumara Kampana, the son of Bukka. He was the one who rescued the city and temples of Madurai and I do not need to give more introduction of this great nephew. Five brothers and the valiant nephew. Again the recurring motif.

(Even Marvel Avengers and original X-Men are Five!!)

There was no eldest son succession but ablest succession in that kingdom. Bukka was next King despite Hariyupa and Sangama jr and Viruppana born to Harihara and Kampa. Bukka chose not Kumara Kampana or Bhaskara but ablest Harihara II as his successor. (Actually Sangama II was PM to his uncles Harihara and Bukka succeeding Sayana. His son Ballappa was next PM).

When Harihara II took over, there were five chief brothers/cousins; you have met Kumara Kampana the warrior, Sangam jr the PM, Viruppana, Hariyupa the administrator and Bhasakara the farmer, and their nephew Mallinatha the great general celebrated even in Bahamani records.

The Sangam dynasty histories are also called PanchaSangama named for Five best kings in the dynasty. One of them was the Devaraya II who was first to introduce secularism in public discourse, 140 years before Akbar. When his Muslim general explained to him that though he bows to the King as he should to a great man but his religion does not allow bowing to anyone. Devaraya II hung the Bhagvada Geeta and Holy Quran over his throne and removed the issue altogether.

The revival of Hinduism was not limited to administrative field but also the theological field, the brothers Madhava and Sayana were great scholars. Sayan’s great commentary on Vedas was one of hundred plus books he and his disciples in the new guru shishya parampara of Sayana wrote. One striking point is that Sayana noted the speed of light to within 6% accuracy:

tatha ca smaryate yojananam. sahasre dve dve sate dve ca yojane ekena nimishardhena kramaman
तथा च स्मर्यते योजनानां सहस्त्रं द्वे द्वे शते द्वे च योजने एकेन निमिषार्धेन क्रममाण नमोऽस्तुते॥
“bow to you, you who traverse 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha.”.

That comes to some 283793760 m/s against 299792458 m/s which is the actual speed. The values does not matter, the fact that SPEED OF LIGHT is FINITE is the main point here which Sayana understood.

More importantly, Madhava compiled the treatise on sixteen (really seventeen Lokayata also) schools of philosophy! This work, with remarkable mental detachment, Madhava places himself in the position of an adherent of sixteen (seventeen) distinct philosophical systems. He is a true Kathenotheist!

Under the Sayanadi brothers, Rishis of this era, the Hindu philosophy underwent a renaissance and Sringeri Matha was the Vatican of the new empire. But the main role this new philosophy did was to unify Hinduism and blurred the divisive aspects of the sectarian conflict. As Burley notes:

With the onset of Islamic rule, hierarchical classifications of the various orthodox schools were developed to defend Hinduism against Islamic influences. Already between the twelfth and the sixteenth century certain thinkers began to treat as a single whole the diverse philosophical teachings of the Upanishads, epics, Puranas, and the schools known retrospectively as the “six systems” (shada darsana) of mainstream Hindu philosophy and encouraged the tendency of a blurring of philosophical distinctions.

The Philosophy of “Harihara” was maintained by this empire as well as worship of Virupaksha and the philosophy of Vidyaranya to unite all philosophies. With change of dynasties to Saluvas who patronized all but especially Madhawacharya saints Sripadaraya and later Tuluva patronage of Vayasteertha saw the other sects fear the power of resurgent Dvaitaadvaita.

This was the reason the other sects stopped supporting and undermining the Vijayanagar central administration. The two ex-brahmana dynasties in Deccan sultanates also played a role in exacerbating the difference. They are not the only reason. Myriad of other reasons including over confidence of Ramaraya are to blame. But in 1565, Vijayanagar Empire fell as did the great centers of learning and culture which it had engendered.

The interline sectarian warfare does not help anyone. Vellore, Mysore and Venkatgiri rulers under influence of Appaya Dikshita would later rue their non participation many times. To spite their own face, they cut their own noses.

What had taken almost superhuman efforts with blood, sweat and tears over 20 years to build and 230 years to maintain was undone in a day. It was not as if the Deccan sultanates escaped the genie of sectarianism which ran rampant on the Peninsula, the sayyids and non-sayyid clashes killed thousands of innocents and destroyed the political fabric of those states. Mughals were waiting on the northern borders and they would come down in a century of war, pillage and destruction which ended up destroying the Mughal empire itself.

In a small town on the coast near myalapore, some foreign traders will land. They will bring with them Cricket, Democracy, Shakespeare and PG Wodehouse as well as famines, destruction of artisan classes, slavery, communalism and Imperialism of two hundred years.

Apayya Dikshit would change his writings. His remarkable catholicity of outlook, his thoroughness in writing, his impartiality, his unerring sense of values, and his concern for truth are all so evident in these writings that the Ramanujas have adopted the Naya-Mayukha-Malika as their manual for study, and the Madhavas the Naya-Muktavali. If only his students had followed the master…

Second Not so Lambi Kahani

The Siva and Vishnu food fight that is going on the group and again Rudra is not always Siva and Vishnu is not Indra. I am reminded of the major fights that happened in the facebook of the day, well there was no book, only face to face conversations.

Who is greater?

Nope, there was no Karna or Arjuna. Mrityunjaya just came out. The fight was who was greater Gavaskar or Vishnwanth.

Strangely, just like Vishnu and Siva, they were also brothers-in-law.

I always found the rabid sectarian fans of the cap, pad, bat, glove wielders funny. One went in as opener and other at number 4. If Opener fails then Vishwanath will be in trouble reduced to strokeless wonder as he shepherds the innings and if the Number Four a spot made his own by the latest avatar of God, failed then all the efforts of Opener to build the innings would come to naught. Naught. a scoreline of Indian wins, many a times in the Devasura sangrams of the day (we called them TEST series).

If they both succeed then India succeeds. A simple logic lost on the sectarians.

And I am sure some would even like to argue that SquarecutAstra of Vishwanath was more powerful than the LateflickAstra of Gavaskar.

And YES, they could use that Astra multiple times. And no, the Pulledhookastra of Moh-Indra was like a vasavi shakti when you are facing Michael Holding. Don’t try it more than once.

Yup! The sectarians always forgot Moh-Indra, the man who stands (bats) between the two. Someone will surely claim the Man of the Match suktas of Prudential Veda of Moh-Indra are actually dedicated to Gavaskar.

I did an analysis of the batting and contribution of both Gavaskar and Vishwanath and could not spot the difference, that is probably it is never good to be Advaita in cricket, it is after all a game for full team of Rudras.

The Rudras

Yup, Yagneya and Rochana may not be enough there, we may need their uncle Chandrasekhara or cousin Kapil also from time to time or Ishaan(t) to bring it to post-IPLite world.

Thus ends the two stories. Do I need to comment?

Language and its clues

Sanskrit language used for writing Vedas is called Old High Sanskrit. It would be prevalent in 1500 BC. Languages change over time. But, there was a young man called Panini. He wrote a comprehensive grammar rules and literally froze the language around 500 BC maybe 200 BC. Does not matter, Sanskrit was frozen in time. It became too accurate to be used for daily use and other languages grew. But Sanskrit had almost 1000 years to change after RigVeda. Vishnu was a popular and top god very early, by 500 BC, the trinity were ruling the Pantheon. So, the Sanskrit writers and scholars and editors and commentators had 1000 years to correct Indra as Vishnu in Rig Veda or derivative Vedanga. They did not.

Indra is the original Hari.

We have the following Sanskrit definitions in Amarkosha:

Indra’s bows:

o गोपतिचाप gopaticApa m. indra’s bow 
o पुरन्दरचाप purandaracApa m. indra’s bow 
o माघवतचाप mAghavatacApa m. indra’s bow 
o वासवचाप vAsavacApa m. indra’s bow
o हर्यश्वचाप haryazvacApa m. indra’s bow
o आखण्डलचाप AkhaNDalacApa m.n. indra’s bow 
o इन्द्रचाप indracApa m.n. indra’s bow 
o इन्द्रधनुस् indradhanus n. indra’s bow 
o कौशिकायुध kauzikAyudha n. indra’s bow 
o शक्रकार्मुक zakrakArmuka n. indra’s bow 
o शुनासीरशरासन zunAsIrazarAsana n. indra’s bow
o हरिचाप haricApa n. indra’s bow
o सौत्रामणधनुस् sautrAmaNadhanus n. indra’s bow 
o सुरराजशरासन surarAjazarAsana n. indra’s bow 
o सुरेन्द्रचाप surendracApa n. indra’s bow 
o सुरेश्वरधनुस् surezvaradhanus n. indra’s bow 
o सुरपतिचाप surapaticApa n. bow of indra 
o ऋजुरोहित Rjurohita n. straight red bow of indra 
o ससुरचापम् sasuracApam ind. with indra’s bow 
o सेन्द्रचाप sendracApa adj. along with indra’s bow 
o रोहित rohita n. indra’s bow unbent and invisible to mortals

I liked the term sasurachapam!

Now the thunderbolts:
o अभ्रोत्थ abhrottha adj. indra’s thunderbolt 
o वज्राशनि vajrAzani adj. indra’s thunderbolt
o ह्लादिनी hlAdinI f. indra’s thunderbolt 
o ह्रादिनी hrAdinI f. indra’s thunderbolt
o ऋभुक्ष RbhukSa m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o गिरिकण्टक girikaNTaka m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o जसुरि jasuri m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o दल्मि dalmi m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o दम्भोलि dambholi m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o तिग्म tigma m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o भिदक bhidaka m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o फेनवाहिन् phenavAhin m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o शतधारक zatadhAraka m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o शतकोटि zatakoTi m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o हीराङ्ग hIrAGga m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o स्फूर्ज sphUrja m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o जम्भ jambha m. indra’s thunderbolt 
o कुलीश kulIza m.n. indra’s thunderbolt 
o इन्द्रतेजस् indratejas n. indra’s thunderbolt 
o इन्द्रवज्र indravajra n. indra’s thunderbolt 
o हरितुरङ्गमायुध harituraGgamAyudha n. indra’s thunderbolt 
o दिद्युत् didyut f. thunderbolt of indra 
o अम्बुज ambuja m. thunderbolt of indra 
o शम्ब zamba m. weapon used by indra 
o दम्भ dambha m. indra’s thunder bolt 
o कुलिश kuliza n. thunderbolt of indra 
o षट्कोण SaTkoNa n. thunderbolt of indra

Indra’s horse:
o हरिहय harihaya m. horse of indra 
o हरितुरग harituraga m. horse of indra
o अर्वन् arvan m. horse, name of indra 
o देवाश्व devAzva m. indra’s horse uccaiH-zravas

Hari:

o हरि hari m. name of brahmA 
o हरि hari m. name of indra 
o हरि hari m. wind or name of god of wind 
o हरि hari m. of ziva 
o हरि hari m. name of a worshipper, name of viSNu 
o हरि hari m. name of a son of garuDa 
o हरि hari m. of yama 
o हरि hari m. sun 
o हरि hari m. name of a dAnava 
o हरि hari m. of a world 
o हरि hari m. particular class of gods under manu tAmasa

o हरि सर्वोत्तम hari sarvottama m. Indra
o हरिरुद्र harirudra m. hari and rudra in one person
o हरिहर harihara m. viSNu and Siva 
o हरिहर harihara m. particular form of deity consisting of viSNu and Siva conjoined

Last Word

Skanda Purana is one of nicest Puranas I have read. It is very equally Vaishanava and Saivite in its outlook. I can understand why. Skanda is son of Siva and nephew of Vishnu. So would Abhimanyu have differentiated between Arjuna and Krishna?

Vichar Kijiye.

by Pranshu B. Saxena

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